Is it possible to smear Rush Limbaugh?

A Good Question

rush_limbaugh.jpgAnd does it matter if you smear a smear artist who commits new smears while complaining about the smear against him?

Good Monday morning Fellow Seekers,

This is a foloup to a post from Friday that I confess I put up without enough thought or fact-checking. It linked to a piece by lefty media watchdog Media Matters for America alleging that Rush Limbaugh had referred to U.S. soldiers who oppose the war as “phony soldiers.” But did he?

Media Matters clearly wanted to suggest a double standard by raising the question: If, in the moveon.org Petraeus or Betray Us? kerfuffle, it was deemed inadmissible to attack Gen. Petraeus, why was it admissible for Limbaugh to attack troops serving in the field who question the war by calling them “phony soldiers?”

In comments numbers 3 and 4 of the Black Ink thread under the Limbaugh post, very esteemed commenter Peder linked to this YouTube video in which Limbaugh alleged that he was the victim of a smear.

 

 The essence of Limbaugh’s defense/rebuttal (which he delivered, in high dudgeon on the next day’s show after the Media Matters piece had led to Limbaugh being criticized by several congressmen and senators) is that the full text of the show in which he used the term “phony soldiers” proves that he was referring to only one soldier, Jesse MacBeth, who actually was a phony.

Macbeth_Jessie.jpgMacBeth (left) claimed to have been an Army Ranger, an Iraq vet, and to have witnessed atrocities. But all of those statements were lies. MacBeth stands convicted of making false statements.

Media Matters original piece attacking Limbaugh made no reference to MacBeth or to the possibility that Limbaugh’s “phony soldiers” remark had been a reference to MacBeth. Limbaugh argues that any fair-minded person listening to the whole broadcast would have understood that he was referring to MacBeth and that Media Matters is guilty of a willful smear.

There are several problems with Limbaugh’s rebuttal.

In his rebuttal, Limbaugh plays a portion from the previous day’s show, to include the references to MacBeth. But the tape doesn’t really prove what Limbaugh says it proves.

Here’s problem #1:

“Phony soldiers” occurs during a Limbaugh exchange with a caller. The caller complains that the media:

“never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.”

That’s when Limbaugh interjects “the phony soldiers.” At that moment, it certainly seems that both he and the caller are referring to soldiers and veterans who oppose the war. Jesse MacBeth has not been mentioned and is not part of the context.

Several minutes later on the same show, Limbaugh referred at length to Jesse MacBeth and replayed a segment about MacBeth from a previous show.

If, in his rebuttal/defense,  Limbaugh had said: “Y’know, I was misinterpreted. When I said ‘phony soldiers’ I was thinking about Jesse MacBeth. I tried to make that clear by talking about MacBeth a few minutes later. I actually believe that soldiers serving in Iraq, and actually every American, has a perfect right to express their views on the war, pro or con, without having their motives or their patriotism questioned…”

…well, personally, I’m a sucker for that kind of tone. It that would make me want to open my mind to the possibility that Rush had been misunderstood and that Media Matters owed him some kind of apology.

But no. Limbaugh goes straight to a claim that Media Matters had willfully and maliciously misrepresented what Limbaugh suggests was a clear reference to one truly phony soldier. The evidence for that is not as clear as Limbaugh suggests.

Here’s problem #2:

In that clip about MacBeth, Limbaugh used MacBeth as an example of everything that is wrong the left.

The story of MacBeth is a story about “who the left props up as heroes,” Limbaugh says, because “for the American antiwar left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth… The truth for the left is a lie.”

Just me talking, but if a guy wants understanding or sympathy as a smear victim when one of his utterances is aggressively interpreted to his detriment, this kind of language is poisoning the jury against his plea.

Here’s problem #3:

In his rebuttal piece, Limbaugh goes to some lengths to claim that he is about to play us — unedited and in full context — the portion of his show that runs from “phony soldiers” to “Jesse MacBeth” so we can see Media Matters’ willful decontextualization.

But Media Matters discovered it was edited and the effect of the editing moved the Jesse MacBeth portion closer to the “phony soldier” reference than it was in the actual live show.)

And here’s problem #4 (which is a repeat of #2, on steroids).

Limbaugh calls his defense the “anatomy of a smear.” He specifies that he has been smeared not only by Media Matters, but by the way the incident has been reported on a particular cable news channel, which he describes as:

Msnbc_logo.jpg“MSNBC, whose content is produced almost exclusively by Media Matters for America and MoveOn.org.”

Any chance that is a smear, Mr. Limbaugh? Or are you prepared to document your assertion that the vast majority of the words spoken on MSNBC have been produced by those two advocacy organizations? Or is it a smear only when it happens to you?

And then, in listing the public officials who have grievously smeared him in this matter, Limbaugh to the most famous of them as: 

“John Kerry, whose own soldiers, whose own personnel, fellow soldiers on those swiftboats, at least many of them, said he was lying about his supposed heroics…”

Really? My understanding was that the vast majority (or was it all) of the men who served under John Kerry on those swiftboats corroborated the acts of heroism for which he won medals, while the so-called Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, who questioned Kerry’s heroism, were almost all (or was it all?) men who had not been present with Kerry on those occasions. Are you prepared, Mr. Limbaugh, to specify the portion of Kerry’s actual shipmates who actually questioned his heroism? Are you prepared to apologize is that portion is very small? Please advise.

kerry.jpgAnd before moving on from the topic of Kerry, Limbaugh added that the senator’s presidential ambitions had ended when the senator:

“went out and insulted the intelligence of the troops.”

Really? I presume you are referring to the infamous 2006 Kerry joke, before a university audience, in which he suggested that students should study hard, “and if you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Limbaugh and his allies had a lot of fun insisting at the time that this was a reference to the alleged stupidity of U.S. troops. But the fun turned into an intentional smear after Kerry acknowledged that he had botched the joke that had been prepared for him by his speechwriter (a joke that had been intended to make fun of Pres. Bush, not of any troops), apologized to any troops who were offended, and released the original intended written text of the joke, which went:

“I can’t overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.”

I don’t know any fair-minded people who have seen that text and continued to insist that Kerry had insulted the troops.

In the course of the back and forth under the Friday post, Jonerik argued that “you cannot smear a smear-artist like Limbaugh by calling him for what he is.” Peder maintains that a smear is a smear no matter the target, and Media Matters smeared Limbaugh.

For what it’s worth, I think the Media Matters piece would have been better, smarter, fairer and more honest if it had made some reference to the fact that Limbaugh had subsequently brought up the MacBeth case. I agree that a smear is a smear no matter the target, although, as I guess I’ve already confessed, I think that a person who smears others has a higher bar to clear when asking for sympathy if he feels unfairly criticized.

Rush Limbaugh has been fabulously successful in his chosen field. But he has neither practiced civility nor shown respect for truth nor for the sensibilities of those it suited his purposes to mock, besmirch and revile. If he feels uncharitably treated, I suggest he look within for both the cause and the cure.


8 Responses to “Is it possible to smear Rush Limbaugh?”

  1. gump worsley,

    I think it can be summed up like this: Hey fat pig, you’re a fat pig.

    He just happens to be a fat pig with 13.5 million fans of what amounts to daily 3 hour GOP campaign commercial.

    Even if Media Matters was selective with their quotations, good for them. If they want to roll around in the slop to show what this guy has been up to for 2 decades, hats off to them.

    This joker has made a career out of saying absolutely inflammatory and ridiculous things and then hiding under the cover of victimhood by claiming that he is either taken out of context or that he is being attacked simply because he is who he is. This has worked with Club Gitmo:
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,644143,00.html

    “YOU’RE GETTING CRITICIZED FOR COMPARING THE PRISON ABUSE IN IRAQ WITH A COLLEGE PRANK. WERE YOU MISINTERPRETED?

    I was totally misinterpreted and taken out of context. In a three-hour show, I would wager that two hours and 58 minutes were spent discussing the aspects of those photos that repulsed everybody, including me. The point I made was that this is not worth demeaning our entire war effort. And I think that these photos have been used as a political opportunity here by opponents and enemies of the President to discount the entire war in Iraq.”

    And his completely honorable defense against doctor shopping for hillbilly heroin:
    http://www.sptimes.com/2004/01/04/State/Limbaugh_may_face_a_r.shtml

    “Limbaugh may face a rarely used charge

    That only one person has been accused of “doctor shopping” recently in Palm Beach County shows police bias, his attorney says.

    By Associated Press
    Published January 4, 2004

    WEST PALM BEACH - Palm Beach County prosecutors investigating Rush Limbaugh for his prescription drug use have filed “doctor shopping” charges against only one person in the past five years, according to a review of court records.

    Limbaugh’s attorneys said the review by the Palm Beach Post in its Saturday editions offers more evidence that the conservative radio commentator is being unfairly targeted.”

    Good defense. Younger siblings should use it on their parents when they do the bad things that big-bro/sis got away with.

    This man is a joke. He’s so much of a joke that his attempts at humor double back on themselves into absurdity:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WCNc7JZ24k

    He does this sort of thing every few months. Didn’t we get enough with Michael J. Fox?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5INPn9lCNp4

    Never mind comments like this:

    Speaking of Mexicans and other Latinos, as bad as hiring Limbaugh for football is, think of the public relations disaster it would have been had ESPN hired him for baseball. Complaining about American jobs lost to NAFTA, Limbaugh said, ”Let the unskilled jobs, let the kinds of jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do - let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”

    This:

    When a Mexican won the New York marathon, Limbaugh said, ”An immigration agent chased him the last 10 miles.”

    This:

    In the 1970s, Limbaugh told an African-American caller, ”Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

    It is not possible to smear this man. You can only get in the mud and roll around with him. I hope Media Matters continues. I hope the Democrats introduce legislation to take him off of AFRTS. This man has tried to have it every which way for the past 20 years and it’s about damn time someone got in the pen and started throwing the slop back in his face.

  2. bertrecords,

    That guy is still on the air? People actually listen?

  3. Mark Gisleson,

    Eric, I remember when you brought D.J. Tice in at The Big Question, you extolled his political perspicacity and fairness. He’s just summarized this post as follows:

    Limbaugh insists that he was misunderstood and misrepresented and was actually referring to a specific, and authentically “phony” soldier — not to dissenting soldiers in general. His explanation is not impossible to accept.

    It’s also possible to believe that a reasonable person might have honestly interpreted Limbaugh to be calling all anti-war soliders “phony.”

    Do you agree that this is a “fair” interpretation of this post? Because I sure don’t. In fact, if I were grading college level papers I’d give him an “F” for deliberately distorting what you just wrote.

  4. Dan,

    Eric, I would really like to see you address Mark’s point.

    Its obvious that Rush Limbaugh is liar and a hypocrite. It really doesn’t take too much work to break down what he says like you did here and point out how full of it he is. But so what? Limbaugh isn’t interested in the truth - his job is to smear his political opponents. Proving Rush Limbaugh is a liar is like proving that the sky is blue.

    The real story here is that a “legitimate” journalist like Tice would defend and try to legitimize Limbaugh’s garbage. Isn’t Tice as bad as Limbaugh here? I expect this out of a right wing talk show host. I would expect a little better from the “Politics and Government Team Leader” at the Star Tribune.

  5. Eric Black,

    Sorry guys, I don’t have a problem with what my esteemed former colleague and blog partner Doug Tice wrote. I did say, in my post, that after listening to the whole segment, plus the Media Matters knockdown and Limbaugh’s rebuttal, it was possible for a fair-minded person to believe that Limbaugh was referring to all anti-war soldiers as phony soldiers, and it was possible to take Limbaugh’s word for it that he was referring to Jesse MacBeth case.

  6. gump worsley,

    I think this is more of a systemic problem than it is with any one individual, but I think it’s kind of sad that our most notable media accountability moments come in the form of David Letterman interviews and Jon Stewart segments. The “truth” in many of these situations is so easily exposed; not by trying to provide context and balance, but by giving informed arguments about what people really mean to say/are saying.

    I guess if I were in Mr. Tice’s position I would focus on the fact that we’re now debating dueling war vets (having moved on from dueling Gold Star moms) and whether or not one of the most hyper-partisan voices in America really does have respect for the views of any soldier, veteran, man, woman, child, or animal that disagrees with him on the war. It’s not that this issue is a non-story; but rather that modern media seems to pretend that it doesn’t have a hand to play in discussing motive and intent along side of context. (Rush has since moved on to greener pastures by referring to an anti-war vet with a suicide bomber metaphor.)

    To make a quick comment about Mr. Black: I wish you would have chosen to/been able to add more “for what it’s worth” statements at the end of your reporting at the Strib. I think modern journalism has struck an inappropriate and ineffective balance between “objectivity” and presenting information with judgements (which a fair minded reader can agree or disagree with). Objectivity is a pipe dream. As long as a reporter is honest and open about where he/she is coming from (and does not rely on personal extrapolation and a few other individual argument pitfalls) I think the end news product wouldn’t suffer one bit from tipping the scales towards letting folks know what it’s worth. I view this as a failure of editorship and publishing. Media outlets and partisan groups like Fox News, Media Matters, Hugh Hewitt, etc take advantage of this balance. Plus, let’s face it; no matter what newspapers write, these groups are only going to advance the pieces of information that fit their agenda.

  7. gump worsley,

    And by judgements I mean judgments. Stupid brain.

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